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November 28

Weird login problem

I am getting an error when trying to log in on some projects. I logged out, rebooted and logged in again but it didn't help

Error message: "There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Please resubmit the form."

Error occurs on: Wikibooks, Wiktionary, Wikiquote

Normal unified login: MediaWiki, Wikipedia Commons, English Wikipedia, French Wikipedia

--Guy Macon (talk) 01:21, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

@Guy Macon: looks like blocked cookies. Central auth login works via cookies from and local cookies (IMO a total of 5 starting with centralauth_* Note that some browser's tracking blockers can intefer with central login. The domains to be whitelisted are mainly and all of the domains you want to login on. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:31, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
That fixed it. As soon as I enabled cookies for it instantly did the usual central authority logon. Thanks!
I should probably ask the W?F to create a more helpful error message. --

Hello! When I created the page Wedding of Rainier III, Prince of Monaco, and Grace Kelly, I originally used images uploaded over a decade ago by others, which were apparently not commercially available and deleted shortly after. A few weeks ago, I uploaded a non-free, identifying image of the event to the infobox, in the style of Wedding of Albert II, Prince of Monaco, and Charlene Wittstock and Wedding of Princess Elizabeth and Philip Mountbatten, under the "This is some other kind of non-free work that I believe is legitimate Fair Use." option, as I didn't feel any of the other categories fit. However, it was speedily deleted shortly after. It is not possible to upload any identifying image to the page, despite it being in practice on other pages of the same topic? Also, I noticed that other identifying images, such as File:Wedding of Princess Elizabeth and Philip Mountbatten, Duke of Edinburgh photo.PNG and File:Wedding of Albert II, Prince of Monaco, and Charlene Wittstock.PN] both contain the licensing "This work is copyrighted...To illustrate the subject in question". However, an option to "illustrate the subject in question" was not available when I chose reasoning for my uploads. Is this why it qualified for deletion? Thank you so much.--Bettydaisies (talk) 01:22, 28 November 2020 (UTC)


When googling Obama, it is my understanding that he was the president of the United States from 2008-2016. This is not the information stated on his wiki page. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:32, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

You are confusing the years of the elections with the term of office. See the first sentence here

The heading, here, when following the table, disappears from view and there are 2 or 3 superfluous blank lines too.

I have added a non-breaking space as a temporary measure to at least make the heading visible.

Can anyone tell me how to fix the disappearing heading and spaces, please?

Cheers, Simon – SCHolar44 🇦🇺 💬 at 12:58, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

For the blank lines, the best thing you can do is fill them in yourself. Seemplez 14:44, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
The broken version is [1] where the heading "Garratts around the world" should have been visible below the table. The problem is apparently the pointless combination of style= "width:100%; ...; float:left;" Maybe browsers try to display the heading in a space of width 0 to the right of the table. You can remove one or both styles. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:48, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
PrimeHunter, many thanks, especially for taking the time to explain the cause. Cheers, Simon – SCHolar44 🇦🇺 💬 at 23:14, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Would {{

Is there any way to prevent my account from automatically logging on in the Wikipedia sister projects such as Wikimedia etc. I started a Wikibooks account recently with a different username that I would like to use separately to this one but when I log in on either of the accounts on either of the projects, it automatically logs me in on that account on everything. No problem if there's no way of doing that, it's not such a big deal. Thanks Face-smile.svg Alduin2000 (talk) 18:31, 28 November 2020 (UTC)


Hi, the page "" INCORRECTLY SPELLS HIS NAME. I have edited the page to correct the spelling within the article but the TITLE needs to be corrected. It is clear from the references that the correct spelling is RORSCHACH (only two "h"s). How do I (or someone) fix this? thanks... 19:14, 28 November 2020 (UTC)Patricia H. Reiff (talk)


ти тихнинологии — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:25, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

This is the help page for the English Wikipedia. Try here instead:

my cards got ruined how can I get new cards — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:25, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

This is not a general help desk, sorry. 331dot (talk) 20:27, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

ит ити — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:33, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Creating a form

How can I create a form which will let a user fill out a template correctly? --Uncle Ed (talk) 20:41, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Ed Poor. Nobody has picked this up, so I'll have a go, but I don't know much about it. I don't believe it is possible to take user input in Wikimarkup. It may be possible in Lua - I don't know: if it is, then it is likely somebody has wrapped the ability in a template, but I haven't found one. I suspect this can be done only at the Mediawiki programming level. I suggest asking at VPT, --ColinFine (talk) 12:16, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello again, Ed Poor. It appears I was wrong: Victor Schmidt has today used an <input box> at the Teahouse, and may be able to advise you how to use it. I have failed to find any help or documentation on the facility. --ColinFine (talk) 19:40, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

a correction that I had made

I made a correction to the article of Clinton Caldwell Boon. Whomever submitted it, had the name of his great granddaughter wrong. I was told there was nothing wrong with it--So you know what? A lot of your content is WRONG--and needs correcting. But you never have to worry about ME doing it again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:40, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia! So you need any help with editing Wikipedia? Heart (talk) 00:42, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi IP editor, did you have a reliable source that others can use to verify your claim? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:58, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi IP editor, I have reasserted your correction, noting in my edit summary that it was per the source cited in the article. Probably a vandal fighter saw your one-letter change without an edit summary from an not-logged-in editor, and assumed it was a mistake. —

Symbol redirect vote2.svg Courtesy link: 1920 United States presidential election

Dear Sir or Madam

The 1920 US Presidential Election page has been vandalized by to include grossly incorrect information and incorrect Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates and photos. I am not tech savvy enough to repair it. Can someone capable please repair it, lock out and banish the vandal and lock down the US Presidential election pages?

Thank you,

Scott — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:5F80:75A0:9162:CA8D:B775:1FCC (talk) 04:43, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

The issue has been fixed, thanks for pointing it out :)

At Garratt#Production list, I had hoped to have only the table header ("Garratt ... manufacturers") visible when the table was in the collapsed state. Instead, the second header row is visible as well. How can I fix this, please? One problem I have is that the data rows in the table are coded differently from the way I do it; I think my lack of understanding of this is the reason I haven't been able to troubleshoot it myself. Cheers, Simon – SCHolar44 🇦🇺 💬 at 12:02, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

@SCHolar44: AFAIK you cant collapse header rows seperately. The only chance to collapse this would be either to wrap it with another table soely for collapsing, or to build some sort of <div>-construct. This works for example:
Collapsing text
Title Title Title
1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9
Victor Schmidt (talk) 14:13, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
Thank you,


I would like to know what reliable or notable sources we can use from Zimbabwe for page creations on artists and musicians locally who have only been written about in Zimbabwean mainstream newspapers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luttygandawa (talkcontribs) 12:32, 29 November 2020 (UTC)


Symbol redirect vote2.svg Courtesy link: Draft:Dianna Cohen

My Dianna Cohen was rejected please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jgorman60 (talkcontribs) 16:02, 29 November 2020 (UTC)


I have received three pictures in my possession that I wanted to upload and post to wikipedia from someone that is the executor of the estate for a notable figure, Ruth Williams Cupp. The first is a picture of a campaign poster, the second is a picture taken by that person's mother of campaigning, and the third is a picture taken by a professional photographer of Mrs. Cupp. For the third picture, Mrs. Cupp paid for the photograph in the 1960s from the professional photographer and the person who is the executor of the estate believes that the deceased had all the rights to the picture in its entirety because she paid for it (it was like a glamour shot from back in the day). The person that shared the pictures with me doesn't know wikipedia well so she can't upload it. I wanted to upload the pictures and use them on the article but I wasn't sure the best way to do that and the best way to explain ownership of the pictures. Any advice on how to do this would be welcomed. Remember (talk) 19:52, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

In re the professional photo: They are wrong. Unless there is a contract stating otherwise or it's unambiguously a work-for-hire, copyright rests with the photographer. Buying the actual photo is just that - buying the physical photograph. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 21:36, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Remember. I'm afraid that you are probably mostly scuppered by copyright law (not by Wikipedia's rules, though we do apply them more strictly than many); but maybe not entirely. We require that most pictures be licensed in such a way that anybody may reuse them for any purpose, and we require that the legal owner of the copyright - not somebody on their behalf - tell us so (see donating copyright materials). I think the previous reply is probably right, but it depends exactly what is meant by "paid for the photograph". However, Wikipedia does accept copyright materials in certain cases, provided all the criteria in the non-free content criteria are met. A picture of a deceased person, to illustrate an article about that person, is quite likely to meet those criteria (but normally only one picture). If you think your use can meet those criteria, then you (or anybody) can upload the picture to Wikipedia itself (not to Wikimedia Commons, where most pictures go) using the Upload wizard, and choosing the option "Upload Locally to Wikipedia". I believe that when you have uploaded it, it will offer you the text that you need to paste into the article to get it to show - please come back and ask if you have difficulty. --ColinFine (talk) 22:18, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
OK. To clarify, it sounds like the third professional picture may or may not be okay and I need to look more into that. But I assume the other two pictures are okay, correct? Remember (talk) 14:51, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
I've added the first two pictures to the article. You can see the pictures here -

On the wiki page I looked up population of Ontario and it brought me to wiki page. States Toronto as capital ... Toronto is not the capital Ottawa is our capital. Just didn’t know where to tell anyone about this mistake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1970:5A62:3500:BC6C:7F62:5168:2169 (talk) 19:54, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

IP please note the sentence reads "It is home to the nation's

I'm trying to make an article about a Guyanese former professional boxer named Joseph Murray, however Joe Murray (boxer) already exists for an English boxer, and Joseph Murray (boxer) redirects to that article since it's his birth name. What would be the best solution here? Cheers. JTtheOG (talk) 20:41, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

JTtheOG I believe the next step if name and profession are the same is to differentiate by birth year, such as "John Doe (boxer, born 1980)". 331dot (talk) 20:46, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
JTtheOG, maybe move Joe Murray (boxer) to Joe Murray (English boxer), disambiguate Joseph Murray (boxer), and then create your article under Joseph Murray (Guyanese boxer). Something along those lines, or you could go by birth year. Heart (talk) 20:47, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
I think

Symbol redirect vote2.svg Courtesy link: Dianna Cohen

In 2010, Dianna was invited to give a TED Talk on Mission Blue in the Galapagos Islands. Entitled “Tough Truths About Plastic Pollution,” her talk has been viewed more than 1million times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jgorman60 (talkcontribs) 21:58, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello, JGoram60: if you have a reliable source unconnected with Cohen or TED, that says so, then that information can go in the article. Otherwise it should not. --ColinFine (talk) 22:27, 29 November 2020 (UTC)


While editing the page I was given a Trigger Warning - that my edit may pose possible conflict of interest or it is self promotion.

My edit merely stated the facts. I added in a paragraph that outlined a actual example of a Temporary Autonomous Zone with a link to an article explaining how the event was designed as a Temporary Autonomous Zone.

How is this any different to the other 'Implementations' example on the same page - regarding the Cacophony Society with a link to an article explaining how it was an example of a Temporary Autonomous Zone?

Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Opoeian (talkcontribs) 01:19, 30 November 2020 (UTC)


Possible vandalism at Jefferson (proposed Pacific state) article and map

Symbol redirect vote2.svg Courtesy link: Jefferson (proposed Pacific state)

Hello. Looking at Jefferson's page, the proposed state between Oregon and California, I found something weird. This "electoral" map in the article corresponds to the counties, in Oregon and California, listed in the article that should be interested to form this new state (see 20th and 21st century sections). And corresponds to the original 2016 version of the state map at the infobox. The southern Jeffersonian border with California encompasses the counties of Mendocino, Lake, Colusa, Sutter, Placer and El Dorado; just north of Sacramento. And this line is confirmed in the article. On June 7, 2020, a user uploaded a new version of the map and, after it, changed several parameters at the infobox. Just take a look to both version: original vs updated. Without any reason given for this update, Sutter County (the white recess in southern red border, next to Sacramento) is removed form Jefferson. And some Californian counties are added: Amador, Calaveras, Tuolumne, Mariposa and Stanislaus (see Cal county map).

Well, this addition, showing a sort of thumbs-up 👍 in the map, made me suspect vandalism. The expansion seems arbitrary: it is unexplained, unsourced and there is not a single word about, both in the article and in the discussion. Most of counties are rural and show similarities with Northern Californian counties but, apart from the strange shape that seems to stretch towards the Bay Area... In which way Stanislaus County (and its seat, Modesto) are related to Jefferston? And why, following the new shape, the rural counties of Mono and, above all, Alpine, that show more similarities to the others, have been excluded? To create a California Panhandle? Why, again, Sutter County was removed? With a couple of random edits (Commons for map, here for infobox), without any reason given and any source added, a user made this change that should be investigated. And if you try to flip upside-down the map you'll see, clearly, a "thumbs-up" gesture. Highlighted by the providential removal of Sutter County (without its shape the arm is highlighted), the addition of Stanislaus (the thumb), Mariposa (the rest of the fist) counties, and the exclusion of Alpine and Mono counties, that would have deformed the hand.

I didn't do any revert in the article because, assuming good faith, it should be a valid edit: this could be a real initiative of the Jefferson State Movement (I dunno the name of the organization, sorry) and can have a satirical significance, deliberately provocative, or factual: I read the meaning of the XX flag and a "thumbs-up" shaped state should match their style. But the removal of a county that could be interested and related (Sutter), the addition of a unrelated one (Stanislaus) just to form the thumb, and other oddities, leave me perplexed. Anyway: it could be the slowness of my PC, but the official Jeffersonian website (this) isn't working, so I can't control their official map. So, I report this weird fact here but I take no action, assuming the good faith of the user who updated the map and the infobox, including a thorough update of area, population etc (another thing that makes me think of good faith). If the Jefferson website works on your computers, you can check the map. In case of vandalism I recommend to ask to some Commons' user to rollback this file to the original version and to revert this edits.

My 2 cents: if this new map turns out to be a fake, the user who updated it should have visited (in good faith) an unofficial/satirical/fake Jefferson-related website. Thank you for the interest and sorry if my report was wrong. In that case, the new counties should be added in the article. Good bye and good work. -- (talk) 01:48, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

You're better off discussing this at that article's talk page.

Symbol redirect vote2.svg Courtesy link: Draft:Antlive

How do I make Antlive wiki page available for public. I created a page but can not see it?

it saids its a draft or does not exist a=but I see where its created , I want to make Antlive page Live for public — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antlive1970 (talkcontribs) 06:12, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

@Antlive 1970: You have created an item in the draft space which has not yet been submitted for review. However, if you were to do so it would almost certainly be declined. The most important issue is that it is not properly sourced. Biographical articles cannot be accepted into the encyclopedia without proper sourcing. It is also doubtful that the subject passes the notability guidelines. Please see WP:REFB for the guidelines on how to correctly add citations. Further, autobiographical articles are not encouraged and may not always be a good idea. There is a lot of boldtext in the draft which should be removed other than bolding of the subject name at the first mention. Please also review WP:COI for more information about manging a conflict of interest. Some links will be left at your talk page; please study them carefully before proceeding further. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 07:09, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
@Antlive1970:(edit conflict) I have added a submit button to your draft. Howewer, if it were to be submitted right now, it would probbably be rejected quickly, as the "Biography" section is unsourced in its entirity. Wikipedia is not interested in a rerun of the Seigenthaler incident. This appears to be an autobiography, if so, please be advised that a Wikipedia article may not nessesarely be desireable. What I have noticed apart from that:
  • The current draft makes excessive use of bolface. Please reduce it to what is nessesary under MOS:BOLD.
  • You can create internal links, in its simplest form, by putting the name in square brackets: [[Example]] creates Example.
  • The "Biography" section currently uses double line breaks in source to force a certain line length. Please don't do that, let the browser handle that automatically.

    Hello, I am reasonably new to Wikipedia and went into my User Contributions where I saw one of my changes had a +72 next to it. I do not know what this means nor do I know what it does, how does green positive numbers help me on Wiki? Secondly, is there a way to see your total amount of green positive points? I am not sure and would love some info, regards anon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tommiemac (talkcontribs) 10:32, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

    Tommiemac That number is not a points system; it simply reflects the number of bytes added with that particular edit, or if the number is red, the number of bytes removed. The number of bytes is roughly analogous with the number of characters the edit added, but not exactly. 331dot (talk) 10:35, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
    331dot Thanks, I am curious however, is there a point system? or a way to see how your edits are doing, if they are popular?
    Tommiemac Note: pings do not work unless you sign your talk page posts with four tildes like this: ~~~~ To answer you, I'm not sure what you mean by "how your edits are doing". If you make an edit and it remains in the article, then it remains in the article. Particular edits are not measured for popularity. There are tools to measure the traffic to a particular article(though I don't know what those are off the top of my head) but not particular edits, unless users make talk page comments about particular edits. 331dot (talk) 10:44, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
    Tommiemac, not really. You can see the number of pageviews (View history > pageviews) for a specific page or article, but not on edit-level. If someone reverts one of your edits, you get a notification, probably meaning that at least someone didn't like your edit. You can see a list of your edits at [3]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:50, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
    Hello, Tommiemac, and welcome to the Teahouse and Wikipedia. Our focus here is on the encyclopaedia, not on editors. There are various ways that editors can acknowledge other editors, such as Thanks and Barnstars, but they are mostly unofficial. What matters is whether, according to consensus of editors, your edits improve Wikipedia or not: if they do, you will earn respect (though it will not necessarily get shown explicitly); if they don't, they will get removed, and you will probably get frustrated. --ColinFine ([[User

    talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:54, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

    Thanks everyone, my question is now closed.

    Fair use audio file rejected

    User talk:The Supermind#Fair use

    User uploaded File:S.M.I.L.A by Alexander Ozolin .mp3, used (as far as I can tell) {{Music sample info}} as instructed on Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Music samples#Guidelines, added it to an article and got instantly reverted by JJMC89's bot.

    This doesn't make sense to me. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 12:38, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

    @Alexis Jazz: One possibility is that the rationale template {{Music sample info}} is very old and hasn't been modified to be recognized by the bot. Another possibility is that the bot recognizes that the rationale does not name the article--thus failing WP:NFCC#10c. —teb728 t c 13:26, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
    @Pokechu22 and Ojorojo: You made the last major edits to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Music samples. @Esprit15d: You added {{Music sample info}}. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 13:51, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
    @Alexis Jazz: Looking closer, I see that the problem is that The Supermind entered the wrong header on their non-free use rationale. They wrote:
    Rationale of fair use for "S.M.I.L.A" audio sample
    It should have been
    Rationale of fair use for "Kiev Day and Night" sample
    with the title of the article where the sample is used. I don't know whether it makes a difference, but they also used an h2 header, whereas the template would have generated an h3. —teb728 t c 18:58, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
    Per WP:NFCC#10c the rationale must contain a link to or the title of the article. At the time of removal, as teb728 points out, it did not. As it stands, the current use fails WP:NFCC#8 anyway. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:28, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
    Number of IPv6 prefixes and AS on the Internet since 2003
    Monthly IPv6 allocations per RIR

    Google publishes statistics on IPv6 adoption among Google users. A graph of IPv6 adoption since 2008 and a map of IPv6 deployment by country are available.[1]

    Exposition whose purpose here is unclear
    Number of IPv6 prefixes and AS on the Internet since 2003
    Monthly IPv6 allocations per RIR

    Google publishes statistics on IPv6 adoption among Google users. A graph of IPv6 adoption since 2008 and a map of IPv6 deployment by country are available.[2][3]

    Akamai publishes by-country and by-network statistics on IPv6 adoption for traffic it sees on its global Content Distribution Network (CDN). This set of data also shows graphs for each country and network over time.[4]

    A global view into the history of the growing IPv6 routing tables can be obtained with the SixXS Ghost Route Hunter.[5] This tool provided a list of all allocated IPv6 prefixes until 2014 and marks with colors the ones that were actually being announced into the Internet BGP tables. When a prefix was announced, it means that the ISP at least can receive IPv6 packets for their prefix.

    The integration of IPv6 on existing network infrastructure may be monitored from other sources, for example:

    --— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 2020-11-30T12:41:06 (UTC)

    What is your question regarding editing Wikipedia? --ColinFine (talk) 12:59, 30 November 2020 (UTC)


    1. ^ {{cite web |url= |title=IPv6 adoption |date= |accessdate=2014-01-21 |archive-url=htt
    2. ^ "IPv6 adoption". Archived from the original on 2014-01-11. Retrieved 2014-01-21.
    3. ^ "Per-country IPv6 adoption". Archived from the original on 2014-01-11. Retrieved 2014-01-21.
    4. ^ "IPv6 adoption visualization". Akamai. Archived from the original on 2016-11-22. Retrieved 2016-11-21.
    5. ^ "SixXS Ghost Route Hunter". Archived from the original on 2003-02-12. Retrieved 2012-01-20.
    6. ^ "IPv6 Enabled Networks". Archived from the original on 2014-08-26. Retrieved 2014-08-25.
    7. ^ "IPv6 transit". Archived from the original on 2011-12-23. Retrieved 2012-01-20.
    8. ^ "IPv6 services in Japan". Archived from the original on 2012-01-21. Retrieved 2012-01-20.
    9. ^ "IPv6 Ready Logo Site - Home". Archived from the original on 2008-07-21. Retrieved 2020-07-17.

    Get stimulus

    Good morning I am a retired senior citizen and I am on SSI I am trying to get the $2400 stimulus from the city I’m sure I qualify by being on SSI I am in dire need of utility food and home repair my garage has fell in on my vehicle can I please please get some help or can someone contact me and tell me which department do I contact for the stimulus this out there thank you so much and may God bless you and please stay safe — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jesse0334 (talkcontribs) 13:20, 30 November 2020 (UTC)


    Although I have I have reverted and reported a lot of bad edits, I also have made a lot of inappropriate decisions, especially with sockpuppet investigations, reports, and reverts for less-obvious cases. How to know what to do? Especially in reporting users for being vandalism-only and promotion-only. How to know if content has been blanked for no reason or has been blanked for good reason? How to know is it is unsourced or restated or obvious II? See my talk page. I need help. 4thfile4thrank (talk) 16:41, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

    @4thfile4thrank: Welcome to Wikipedia. WP:AGF is the general rule, and judgement comes from experience. If something has been blanked with no edit summary, then you may revert it and then ask the user for their reasons by starting a discussions on the article's talk page. I suggest holding off on reporting users as vandalism only or promotion only until you have more experience with Wikipedia in general. Perhaps ask for a mentor at WP:CVUA if fighting vandalism is something you are interested in. RudolfRed (talk) 19:26, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
    @4thfile4thrank:, another good method can also be just talking to the individual. Sure, the more-discrete socks will be able to talk to you without you picking any more of an indication, but vandals, bad-faith editors, undisclosed paid editors and less intelligent socks can be picked out from a conversation with them, while helping you filter those who just need a helping hand (or those who disagree firmly, in good faith, who can often be nudged to the light side) Nosebagbear (talk) 19:38, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
    Is is okay to report those who have only introduced spam links, or have solely inserted bad words multiple times, as vandalism-only accounts? — Preceding

    I would enjoy offering my time to this project. I would like to add images of artworks (most created before 1965) for students to have high quality images of particular artists. The majority of these images come from already published photographs of the artworks from various auction houses (I have collected these images for years). I have read various article here but honestly I am lost on if these can be used due to any copyright issue. These pictures are already published/public but perhaps I still need permission (artist estate, auction house, both?). If this is of any importance, I usually download the image to my desktop, crop out the frame around the artwork and then screenshot the result. I state this because I would think the only metadata would be from that and I do not know if that may be a "no-no" also. Thank you for your time, I really would like to do this but want to do it correctly!


    1. Can I use freely available (non charge) images of artworks created before 1965? The images of the artwork were generally produce by various auction houses and have been freely distributed since.

    2. If so, can I use a screen shot to remove any frame work from the picture?

    3. If so do I need to state where the photographs came from and if so how?

    Thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NightBird1029 (talkcontribs) 22:36, 30 November 2020 (UTC)


    Is there a way to remove auto-saved edit summaries from the VisualEditor?

    I posted this question in the Teahouse.

    As you can see, one person told me that what I'm seeing is browser-side, and I replied with two fairly concrete reasons why that isn't the case. Since then, I've heard nothing more, and I'm concerned that my question will get archived before someone has a chance to answer it properly. So I thought I would try posting here, especially since I'm not clear on the difference between this Help Desk and the Teahouse.

    Is there a place that is more appropriate to ask questions specific to VisualEditor?


    --1980fast (talk) 00:27, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

    1980fast The Teahouse is geared towards new and/or inexperienced users; the Help Desk is for anyone. 331dot (talk) 00:42, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
    @331dot: Thanks for clarifying that for me! This was definitely where I should have posted from the start, then. I hope the link I made doesn't break if my Teahouse question does get archived. :) 1980fast (talk) 00:54, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
    There is nothing wrong with you posting here, BTW. 331dot (talk) 01:16, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

    It was seen here that I will edit something with addition with multiple columns in one row. There were 50 states plus DC, and its 5 territories of the U.S., but how does it work to equal the number in the totals? (Note that it also takes >8 seconds to load this template page and also errors/problems while loading the table's visual editor, since it was repeated and doesn't work).

    Also, how to subtract three columns, to equal something in one row (for example,in the same page table, it was total confirmed cases - deaths - recoveries = active cases)?Evan0512 (talk) 03:20, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

    Somebody maliciously edits my Dad's Page;

    thank you!


    I have and had a great posting on my Dad, irv was extensive and true and compiled by a professor friend Brad Verter, PhD and me...somebody does not like the site and has dismantled much of it. I repost it, they dismantle there anything that can be done about malicious editing? thank you Paul Docktor MD 303 523 8700 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:280:4:1213:CCC:C5B2:1B4D:C375 (talk) 03:49, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

    Please start a discussion on the article's talk page to get consensus on what material should or should not be included in the article.

    I added a space on the Leipzig War Crimes Trials page, as seen [here], but for some reason, it doesn't seem to register that as an additive edit, even though I didn't make any subtraction to cancel it out as far as I can tell. Is this a glitch, or is there a reason it's treated as a "zero" edit? Maximajorian Viridio (talk) 07:09, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

    FYI – Heading added by Tenryuu.

    I was wondering if someone could help me with changing the name of the page titled "Draft:Montana Jacobowitz" to just "Montana Jacobowitz." Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamlillyk (talkcontribs) 08:21, 1 December 2020 (UTC)


    the company is now leading in South Africajj, jami is instant message — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:21, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

    This appears to relate to

    Hi! I have a template question for Template:Ars nova and Template:Ars subtilior. I can't get the "Also music theorist*" and "Category" both centered in the middle properly – this is due to my use of navigational arrows to other topics at the bottom, but surely there must be a way to keep the arrows but center the other two items properly? Best - Aza24 (talk) 08:29, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

    Request to Move a Page (

    Hello, Our museum has legally changed its name, but I am new to Wikipedia and have been unable to Move the page myself. Please advise how we can make this name change to our page, so that our Wikipedia page has up to date information on it.

    The pages is currently: We have changed our name from "Arthur Child Heritage Museum" to "1000 Islands History Museum"

    Thank you, Samantha, Museum Coordinator IslandsMuseum (talk) 16:53, 1 December 2020 (UTC)